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Prop 8 on Trial
January 25, 2010

By Amanda Beck

The Perry v. Schwarzenegger plaintiffs closed their case Monday by playing clips from two video conference rallies funded by Proposition 8 supporters and broadcast over the Internet before the November 2008 election.

The conferences featured attorneys, ministers, and other Proposition 8 supporters discussing same-sex marriage and the import of the pending election. One speaker said that permitting same-sex marriage would open the door to incest, bestiality, and the ability of pedophiles to marry children.

Another compared the potency of the Proposition 8 election to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and said that even people who did not know a married gay couple would be affected by expanding the definition of marriage – just as Americans who did not know one of the terrorists’ victims were still affected by the attacks.

These rallies “were conducted as part of a grass-roots campaign,” plaintiff attorney Christopher Dusseault said. He produced emails that showed campaign managers Jeff Flint and Frank Schubert had alerted supporters about the conferences.

Dussealt then played recorded clips of the events, which also included these comments:

  1. “The polygamists are waiting in the wings. … And they’re probably going to win.” – Jim Garlow, pastor of Skyline Church in La Mesa, California
  2. “Same-sex marriage affects every family in the community, and it confuses children. … If same-sex marriage is legalized, then it must be taught as moral, acceptable behavior in every school.” –  Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council
  3. “Our children are being taught more and more to be accepting of the homosexual agenda. We are seeing the people of Massachusetts being desensitized day-by-day.” – Roberto Miranda, pastor of Lion of Judah Church in Boston, Massachusetts

Chief Judge Vaughn Walker admitted the simulcast recordings to evidence over the objections of defense attorney Nicole Moss.  She said that, although had funded the events, there was no evidence that group leaders knew what would be said or endorsed the language.

Video copies of the broadcasts can be purchased at

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